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Disabling kjs and kjava
Mr E_T
2005-11-04 12:21:10 UTC
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Is it possible to disable kjs and kjava and use appletviewer and java directly ?

I am behind a firewall and need to use jdk-1.5 because of the https proxy capability.
But the kjava is interfering with the java protocols.

If I run javaws from firefox the site works perfectly. - but it does not add all the extra kde stuff.

It is beginning to get to the point where I want to get rid of konqueror and use firefox instead.
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Kevin Krammer
2005-11-04 18:24:12 UTC
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Post by Mr E_T
Is it possible to disable kjs and kjava and use appletviewer and java directly ?
I am behind a firewall and need to use jdk-1.5 because of the https proxy
capability. But the kjava is interfering with the java protocols.
kio_http should also be able to use a HTTPS proxy.
Do you have "Use KIO" enabled in Konqueror's Java settings?

Cheers,
Kevin
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Mr E_T
2005-11-04 18:35:08 UTC
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Post by Kevin Krammer
Post by Mr E_T
Is it possible to disable kjs and kjava and use appletviewer and java directly ?
I am behind a firewall and need to use jdk-1.5 because of the https proxy
capability. But the kjava is interfering with the java protocols.
kio_http should also be able to use a HTTPS proxy.
Do you have "Use KIO" enabled in Konqueror's Java settings?
kio does not work for the particular site.

jdk-1.5.0 also has a seperate list of -Dhttps.proxy... -Dsocksproxy... etc

It also allows for the proxies to be entered in the java deployment properties file.

undder firefox java asks for the proxy username and password - but under konqueror
it just silently fails.

I would like to be able to turn off all proxy switches and any kde java extensions.
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Kevin Krammer
2005-11-04 18:54:52 UTC
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Post by Kevin Krammer
Post by Mr E_T
Is it possible to disable kjs and kjava and use appletviewer and java directly ?
I am behind a firewall and need to use jdk-1.5 because of the https
proxy capability. But the kjava is interfering with the java protocols.
kio_http should also be able to use a HTTPS proxy.
Do you have "Use KIO" enabled in Konqueror's Java settings?
kio does not work for the particular site.
Weird.
This is the first time I hear about a webserver not being compatible with the
KDE Implementation for HTTP or SSL

What kind of crappy implementation does this site use?

Anyway, unless this has changed (what I would find quite unlikely), not
enabling KIO support means the applets are using the Java libs implementation
for URLConnection/Sockets, etc

What version of KDE do you use?
Post by Mr E_T
undder firefox java asks for the proxy username and password - but under
konqueror it just silently fails.
Strange. Are you sure the same virtual machine is handling both runs?

Cheers,
Kevin
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Martijn Klingens
2005-11-04 19:34:08 UTC
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Post by Mr E_T
kio does not work for the particular site.
Weird.
This is the first time I hear about a webserver not being compatible with
the KDE Implementation for HTTP or SSL
The way I understand Mr E_T's mail it's possible for Java apps to override
proxy settings, and the KDE code doesn't support these overrides and instead
enforces the global proxy config on the app. Is that about right?
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Mr E_T
2005-11-05 01:27:02 UTC
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Post by Mr E_T
kio does not work for the particular site.
Weird.
This is the first time I hear about a webserver not being compatible with
the KDE Implementation for HTTP or SSL
The way I understand Mr E_T's mail it's possible for Java apps to override
proxy settings, and the KDE code doesn't support these overrides and instead
enforces the global proxy config on the app. Is that about right?
I use kde 3.4.2
and yes that seems to be about right.
The site in question is a banking site and probably does it as a security issue - to prevent an
application from hijacking the data.
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Martijn Klingens
2005-11-07 09:53:41 UTC
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Post by Mr E_T
kio does not work for the particular site.
Weird.
This is the first time I hear about a webserver not being compatible
with the KDE Implementation for HTTP or SSL
The way I understand Mr E_T's mail it's possible for Java apps to
override proxy settings, and the KDE code doesn't support these overrides
and instead enforces the global proxy config on the app. Is that about
right?
I use kde 3.4.2
and yes that seems to be about right.
The site in question is a banking site and probably does it as a security
issue - to prevent an application from hijacking the data.
Hmm, I was about to reply about the silence regarding your question, but I
just realized the mail went to the kde-java list, which is about developing
KDE applications in Java, not about Konqueror's Java applets.

Could you repost your question (with the information about overriding the
proxy that caused the confusion) to kfm-***@kde.org instead?

Thanks,
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Mr E_T
2005-11-07 10:03:35 UTC
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Post by Mr E_T
Post by Martijn Klingens
Post by Kevin Krammer
Post by Mr E_T
kio does not work for the particular site.
Weird.
This is the first time I hear about a webserver not being compatible
with the KDE Implementation for HTTP or SSL
The way I understand Mr E_T's mail it's possible for Java apps to
override proxy settings, and the KDE code doesn't support these overrides
and instead enforces the global proxy config on the app. Is that about
right?
I use kde 3.4.2
and yes that seems to be about right.
The site in question is a banking site and probably does it as a security
issue - to prevent an application from hijacking the data.
Hmm, I was about to reply about the silence regarding your question, but I
just realized the mail went to the kde-java list, which is about developing
KDE applications in Java, not about Konqueror's Java applets.
Could you repost your question (with the information about overriding the
Thanks,
Sure - the kde lists are a bit confusing as to which to write too.
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Martijn Klingens
2005-11-07 10:52:57 UTC
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Sure - the kde lists are a bit confusing as to which to write too.
I know, I can't blame you ;-)
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